Any comic readers out there?

[Woz]

Big fan of Moore and Frank Miller and Preacher...Make that a massive fan of Moore.

I've got the whole run of The Invisibles in my basket at Amazon at the moment (70 quid, gulp) and I'm wondering if it's actually any good.
I've fallen for the concept and the cover art you see....

Any other recommendations from anyone?

[Rascal]

Used to be a big 2000ad reader, but got out of them. Never got sucked into the hoohaa with The Watchmen and V for Vendetta etc, but after seeing Sin City I want to get back into them. V for vendetta and The watchmen were in the Play sale so may well pick them up.

Also want to get the fairly recent one which I think is set in Britain and is very mod-influenced with Lambretta styled robots in it, thats meant to be very good.

[Stabiloboss]

Hmmm... I tried the 1st volume of the Invisibles and was a bit underwhelmed by the art but it still has that warped Grant Morrison take on things. Doom Patrol vols 1 and 2 have been devoured and enjoyed though and I may go back and try Invisibles again.

If you are after a real headf@ck though try The Filth. Very, very, very odd and it has more haters than lovers I think. Can get the whole run in one book for 12 quid on Amazon. Not for the squeamish though!

Or We3 - not so weird but bloody great. Fab Frank Quitely artwork too...

Hope this helps.

[AG40k]

depends, i spend most of my time reading manga as opposed to western stuff, id recommed Evangelion, Hellsing as there what im keeping major tabs on at the moment.
Good choice with preacher mind, got to love the saint of killers and cassidy

[Woz]

Used to be a big 2000ad reader, but got out of them. Never got sucked into the hoohaa with The Watchmen and V for Vendetta etc, but after seeing Sin City I want to get back into them. V for vendetta and The watchmen were in the Play sale so may well pick them up.

V for Vendetta is amazingly good. Very dark though, but stick with it.
The Watchmen is often sited as the best graphic novel ever with good reason. I really hope they never make it into a movie.

Cheers for all the recommendations everyone. I find it tricky with graphic novels because they're too expensive to buy on a whim and I don't know the good from the bad.

If anyone knows where I can get the collected Sam and Max for reasonable money I'd be extremely happy!

[John Dee]

V for Vendetta is coming out in March on the big screen and looks nice. Sin City 2 and 3 are in the pipe works and ghost rider the film is up for 2007
The latest one for me has been DC's the outsiders which is looking good.
DC and marvel are know starting to cache up on the gritty side of story telling after they decided to aim more at the young adult to middle age grouping, and a hell of allot of comics are coming to the big screen.

[Woz]

V for Vendetta is coming out in March on the big screen and looks nice.

The whole idea makes me want to vomit.
I imagine them doing the whole bullet time thing, and revealing him at the end to be some A list hollywood star.

[John Dee]

Well he is played by Hugo Weaving. And I have no idea if they will show his face from under the mask and bugger it up like the judge dread film?

It is directed by James McTeigue (it's his first film as the main director)

So I can see that it can go ether way but looking at the trailer it looks to be a good film.
Well one that I’m willing to risk £6 and some time on

[Woz]

Well he is played by Hugo Weaving. And I have no idea if they will show his face from under the mask and bugger it up like the judge dread film?

The fact that they've even let you know who is playing the role will weaken the story.

It is directed by James McTeigue (it's his first film as the main director)

So I can see that it can go ether way but looking at the trailer it looks to be a good film.
Well one that I’m willing to risk £6 and some time on

It's pretty amazing that it's getting a release at all considering that he's an out and out terrorist and murderer. If it's not dealt with VERY delicately it will be misenterpreted by the masses.

[John Dee]

Well he is played by Hugo Weaving. And I have no idea if they will show his face from under the mask and bugger it up like the judge dread film?

The fact that they've even let you know who is playing the role will weaken the story.

What like knowing that David Prowse played Darth Vader weakend ther star wars story?

It is directed by James McTeigue (it's his first film as the main director)

So I can see that it can go ether way but looking at the trailer it looks to be a good film.
Well one that I’m willing to risk £6 and some time on

It's pretty amazing that it's getting a release at all considering that he's an out and out terrorist and murderer. If it's not dealt with VERY delicately it will be misenterpreted by the masses.

The matrix, equilibrium and Aeon Flux are all films in which the hero’s act likes terrorists which fights the government and kills its police. V for Vendetta from the looks of the trailer follow the same principle and I can't see the public having any more problems with it than they did with the other films.

I can see ware you are coming from with you being a fan of its comic book form and Hollywood’s past records for making crap comic book film adaptation.
But that terrorist thing is just bull shit.

[AG40k]

Well he is played by Hugo Weaving. And I have no idea if they will show his face from under the mask and bugger it up like the judge dread film?

The fact that they've even let you know who is playing the role will weaken the story.

It is directed by James McTeigue (it's his first film as the main director)

So I can see that it can go ether way but looking at the trailer it looks to be a good film.
Well one that I’m willing to risk £6 and some time on

It's pretty amazing that it's getting a release at all considering that he's an out and out terrorist and murderer. If it's not dealt with VERY delicately it will be misenterpreted by the masses.

on a diffrent topic but same point, have you not seen the new 50 cent console game, how things like this can be A) released due to content and B) released due to actual game play is beyond me.
Or is this just me thinking the whole 50 cent things is just bollecks anyways?

[Night wing / joe king]

all bollocks.

[John Dee]

One big pile of bollocks to boot.

[Woz]

Well he is played by Hugo Weaving. And I have no idea if they will show his face from under the mask and bugger it up like the judge dread film?

The fact that they've even let you know who is playing the role will weaken the story.

What like knowing that David Prowse played Darth Vader weakend ther star wars story?

No...erm, we don't have spoilers, so I'll mask this bit (select it to read):

MAJOR SPOILERS!
You have been warned!

If you've not read the book, you won't get this, but it's set in a time where a Fascist government has taken control of the UK and there are death camps where blacks, gays, jews and non-white/non-christians are taken. V is an escapee from one of the camps, and it's made very clear at the end of the book that it's vital that no-one (especially the main female character) knows who or what he is, because he is meant to be a symbol. If V is known to be black, white, disabled, jewish etc, it make the cause he's fighting for less general. In the book, you obviously can't hear his accent or deduce anything about him from his speech, but in the film we know he's being played by a white middle classed westerner, which does weaken the character's power.
The first V is anarchy - he's concerned with destroying the status quo, and the successor is a symbol for rebuilding society.

It is directed by James McTeigue (it's his first film as the main director)

So I can see that it can go ether way but looking at the trailer it looks to be a good film.
Well one that I’m willing to risk £6 and some time on

It's pretty amazing that it's getting a release at all considering that he's an out and out terrorist and murderer. If it's not dealt with VERY delicately it will be misenterpreted by the masses.

The matrix, equilibrium and Aeon Flux are all films in which the hero’s act likes terrorists which fights the government and kills its police. V for Vendetta from the looks of the trailer follow the same principle and I can't see the public having any more problems with it than they did with the other films.

I can see ware you are coming from with you being a fan of its comic book form and Hollywood’s past records for making crap comic book film adaptation.
But that terrorist thing is just bull shit.

Not quite - in the book V is specifically destroying the things that the British hold dear. He is destroying the symbols that the Fascist use to enforce their power on the populace, and this includes blowing up the Houses of Parlaiment and killing the head of the Church - in a way that mocks the Priest's faith while killing him as well.
It's a very political book, and it focuses on some things that are unusually accurate given how long ago it was written - public survailence for one.
Still, the wacky Wachowskis have had a hand in the film, so it will have loads of graceful killing and guns. It will probably miss out the bits where the head of the investigation gets off his head on acid, or where the main female character turns to prostitution though.

Also - V straps a load of explosives to himself at one point, suicide bomber stylee. That should go down like a lead baloon.

[John Dee]

Now I see where you are coming from with your worries (can you tell I have never read the comic.)

P.S
They show the explosives on his body in the trailer

[Woz]

They show the explosives on his body in the trailer

I noticed.
Out of context it doesn't look as bad. In the book

he's wearing that in a police station I think

[John Dee]

Just seen V for Vendetta the film over the weekend and IMHO it was a bloody good film and very enjoyable.