This weeks weekly debate - Is Nuclear Power so bad?

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haha - not such a popular thread :) maybe I have lost my touch :eek:
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aye, start a new one!!!!!


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and i think its about 1 ton of plutonium produces the same amount of power as 10,000 tons of coal ;) summot like that anyway :p
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DE-G@vnor wrote:haha - not such a popular thread :) maybe I have lost my touch :eek:
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Post by Woz »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4272691.stm

Now, if 30kg of oil or coal, or even 300 tonnes of it, went missing I wouldn't really give a monkey's. I DO however have some concern that some of this 30kg of plutonium will some day show up in a briefcase along with some C4 explosives.


Just an example for everyone who's been saying that nuclear power is safe and that the checks and standards are so rigorous that we shouldn't worry.
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Well, Woz, bad luck for you then matey, according to the Indepandant, Mr Blair is building at least 10 more nuclear power stations starting from 2007 (i think), numbers may be out but it was a big story a few days ago in there.
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Hate to sound all "doom and gloom".

The deaths that would result in a nuclear bomb in a major city kind of pale in comparison to an environmental change on a world scale that can only be compared to the last ice age.
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What we really need to do is try and get viable nuclear fusion reactors operational - there are some test ones that can output as much energy as goes in, but they're nowhere near commercial viability.

There are radiation issues with fusion , depending on the fuel used - if we can get access to Helium-3 (there's plenty in the Sun!) then it's clean and high output; if we use the available fuels then you get large amounts of neutron radiation.
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[GF5]Mez wrote:What we really need to do is try and get viable nuclear fusion reactors operational - there are some test ones that can output as much energy as goes in, but they're nowhere near commercial viability.
What do you mean to tell me that current Nuclear power stations use more energy than they produce?
surely we need them to output more energy than goes in...much more. I thought this had been sorted back during the last World war with the discovery of the chain reaction and the use of neutrons instead of protons. :p
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Current Nuclear power stations are fisson reactors rather then fusion
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Post by [GF5]Mez »

What Mackey said.


Current facilities are fission, which involves splitting heavy elements (uranium)

Fission involves joining atoms together (helium), and is a lot more complex than fusion, but has greater potential for higher energy production. The hydrogen bomb uses uncontrolled fusion.


Quick physics lesson: elements heavier than iron release energy when they are split, elements lighter than iron release energy when they fuse. (Yes, I do have a degree in physics :) )
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kick him out of the debate...


hes too smart ;)
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Post by Barracuda »

So what are you saying Mez, FUSION is alot more complaicated than FUSION??

They both sound the same to me

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Woz wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4272691.stm

Now, if 30kg of oil or coal, or even 300 tonnes of it, went missing I wouldn't really give a monkey's. I DO however have some concern that some of this 30kg of plutonium will some day show up in a briefcase along with some C4 explosives.


Just an example for everyone who's been saying that nuclear power is safe and that the checks and standards are so rigorous that we shouldn't worry.
well u have to realise that it might not be the correct grade .

but as for me living in a country with 0 nuke powered stations but haveing one of the most nuke infestd sea's on the planet if not the most im against it fully . i think you could find another way getting power if you wanted it
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Oh, and just to point out, the plutonium that was "missing" is just number crunching errors, accounting errors if you like!

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Post by Woz »

Barracuda wrote:Oh, and just to point out, the plutonium that was "missing" is just number crunching errors, accounting errors if you like!

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No - they think it's an accounting error, but being as it's an error in the amount accounted for they don't actually know what they may have lost.
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Yeah thats what i meant, it happens every year they have a quote, nothing to panic over!

It not a Tv programme!

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