Windows xp 64 Internet problems

Seal1 · Post by **Seal1** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:31 pm

Hi all,

Finally i have upgrade my PC to a AMD 64 3200 CPU using a A8N-SLI SE motherboard.

Ever since this upgrade i have had problems with my internet usage on this PC. It is mainly when i am trying to use peer to peer software. The internet becomes very tempremenal. Accessing web pages take ages to load and i often find myslef hitting the refresh button 200 times or even closing the browser. (IE7)

I thought it might be my DNS server setting but i can't confirm this as i dont have any settings to go by but could this be the problem?

any thoughts?

Cheers

Adi

John Dee · Post by **John Dee** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:56 am

This one is easy. I take it that you are using something like a bit torrent client?
The most common cause of this problem is when all of your upload speed is being used by your ptp program then you hardly have any left to send your request for web site pages.

To stop this you just have to limit your upload speed (see the help section of you ptp on how to do this)
A good guide is

Dial up = 3 kbps
ADSL upto 2 mb = 20 kbps
ADSL upto 8 mb = 35 kbps
ADSL 2 = 35 kbps

This works out to be around 90% of your upload speed.

Happy surfing

Seal1 · Post by **Seal1** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:37 am

Thanks, but that is not the problem.

The problem is that i just can not connect. Well, I connect, but then i lose the connection.

Then i am browsing the internet and then it takes ages to load a pagge. I have to refresh or go back and forward.

Not sure what the problem is but i think i am going to have to install XP 32 bit intead!

thanks

Post by **DE-G@vnor** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:41 pm

Seal its a "Known Issue" with Microsoft at the moment , and is not exclusive to x64 but happens more often on that.

There is no release to the public yet, but my organisation is currently working on troubleshooting it.

If you can recreate the problem by doing the following - you have the problem.

It occurs mostly (mostly..... cartman/alien) when using the tabbed browsing features and SSL.

Login to an SSL site, then open a new tab by middle mousing an item on the page (Im thinking Ebay here).
Then open a third tab from the second.

Viola - you should see the spinning circle on the tab, but never any progress then a time out.

Closing IE7 and re-opening works for maybe 2 more browsing sessions (2 seperate links) then re-occurs.

This is what you get for being an "early adopter" !

Seal1 · Post by **Seal1** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:01 am

DE-G@vnor wrote:Seal its a "Known Issue" with Microsoft at the moment , and is not exclusive to x64 but happens more often on that.

There is no release to the public yet, but my organisation is currently working on troubleshooting it.

If you can recreate the problem by doing the following - you have the problem.

It occurs mostly (mostly..... cartman/alien) when using the tabbed browsing features and SSL.

Login to an SSL site, then open a new tab by middle mousing an item on the page (Im thinking Ebay here).
Then open a third tab from the second.

Viola - you should see the spinning circle on the tab, but never any progress then a time out.

Closing IE7 and re-opening works for maybe 2 more browsing sessions (2 seperate links) then re-occurs.

This is what you get for being an "early adopter" !

Thanks, This is exactly what i have been experiancing. Things seem to have corrected them slefs slightly now that i have set the DNS server address in the network properties page / box. I had to get the server addresses from my modem.

I really started getting annoyed. I then started blaming BT as i could not pin point where the fault lay.

Cheers for your help.

Adi

Post by **DE-G@vnor** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:34 pm

Heres one of many suggestions that are coming in from MS now: This one worked in more than 50% of my cases:

"historical info IE used to set cache size to a percentage of disk size.
With the advent of larger disks, that cache has gotten so large as to be
unuseable. IE7 reduces the size of the cache to a more manageable level in
most circumstances. /historical info"

I'd add to that that now it seems RAM based as well - now with 1GB or 2GB of RAM in most nerds machines nowadays (me included) it sets the cache STILL to a stupid size!

1) Reduce the size of your IE cache to 50 to 150 Meg at the most. I'm
betting, if you check, it'll be a Gig or more, far too large for IE to
handle.

2) Do not use the "automatically" option for checking for new versions of
Web pages. It has always been buggy and will *always* lead to IE failing in
the way you describe eventually.

3) After emptying your cache and reducing its size, run a scandisk/defrag
of your system in safe mode

Got to love the "always buggy" line in point 2.

Post by **Me Too** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:29 am

No offense chaps but how about using Firefox? I've been using it as my primary browser for well over two years and it has reached the maturity where pretty much everything will work with it (by which I mean the sites designed for IE quirks.)

Rawk · Post by **Rawk** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:02 am

I'm still using IE6!

Tried firefox, but to be honest I just thought... hmmm another browser. Sort of the same. Few extra bits. Nothing earth shattering. Doesn't quite work everywhere.

Never really saw what all the fuss was about, so I uninstalled it. I'm a bit like that mind. Something has to be extremely different & better for me to bother!

Post by **DE-G@vnor** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:34 am

Me Too wrote:No offense chaps but how about using Firefox? I've been using it as my primary browser for well over two years and it has reached the maturity where pretty much everything will work with it (by which I mean the sites designed for IE quirks.)

As much as I love firefox at home - here are my main gripes:

1. Lack of reliable support for "transparent" NTLM authentication.
2. Lack of reliable support for mainstream websites which contain OLE automation / Office integration
3. Lack of updates to security flaws (can't believe that one).

For a 3rd party browser I actually think Firefox is quickly becoming just another IE. Opera remains my favourite as it is by far the most innovative.

Btw, I tried the suggestions above last night on my home machine and it worked a treat for me too! hurrah!

Post by **Woz** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:54 pm

Me Too wrote:No offense chaps but how about using Firefox? I've been using it as my primary browser for well over two years and it has reached the maturity where pretty much everything will work with it (by which I mean the sites designed for IE quirks.)

There's your problem right there.
Much as I love the concept, I found it just another hassle to run.
I've got no axe to grind with Firefox, but just the same I'm one of the few that also has no axe to grind with Microsoft.
They both seem to do the job for me, with the advantage that I am more familiar with IE.

Post by **Me Too** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:36 pm

Well at least you tried it and know why it doesn't work for you. Can't say fairer than that.

Post by **Woz** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:51 am

There's a part of me that really wants to like it too.

Have you seen that add-on that gives you a secure shared area with all your mates?
I think it sets up a vpn-type connection between you, and you can all share files and resources. So - an easy to use personal WAN. They ay it's for families to share photos etc, but I can see that it's really going to be used for film and music swapping.

It's something I've been predicting for quite some time, as I used to work for a DRM/Copy Protection company. It was obvious that once the studios started legally persuing individuals, the impetus would be to share only with people you know.

Post by **DE-G@vnor** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:16 pm

If it's plug your favourite Browser time then I challenge thee to a duel Mr.

What about Opera's built in bit torrent client, just click those torrents!
Or its RSS feeds thats been there for god knows
Or that sexy woman with the tight looking arse who flogs it on the homepage?

Dammit, I've just checked now and shes been replaced by some blond curly country wannabee bint...